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RazorSiS

Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:53 am

When a video link or any other download link expires, how to change it if the website doesn't provide direct link to copy?
Some websites provide masked download link like https://...../file_dl.php (many file sharing sites)
putting the above link in change url option of fdm will be invalid as it'll download a webpage
and clicking the link will start a new download in fdm without any prompt to resume the already present download
in this case a new link grabber from browser will be great

Please guide me on this, if this feature is already implemented
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby StormJumper » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:17 pm

Expired links is not something FDM can fix they expire for a reason and FDM isn't the problem here. If your link can't be downloaded then you have to find another fix for your expired links.
RazorSiS

Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:21 am

@stormjumper
Please read the full post & understand before replying
Im not asking like, why my download links are expiring with fdm installed.
What m really asking is,
1. how to refresh expired download links from websites that doesn't provide direct link to copy, like http://.../filedl.php
2. How to resume dowload if already presents in download list
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:34 am

For an existing download with expired link:

1. With idm
-Automatically captures the correct download link from browser as soon as the download link is clicked again, replaces the expired link with the newly acquired link then resume download
-If i try to download the same file again, it asks if i want to resume the existing download or start over

2. With fdm :
-manually copy correct download link from the website and put in change url option. Some file sharing websites don't allow us to copy the correct download link(direct download link). Also can't copy download link from video streaming sites, most of them don't provide download option, you have to capture the link
-If i try to download the same file again, it just creates a new download and starts from scratch

How to do it? Hoping you understood the problem this time.
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby Clive Sorensson » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:46 am

RazorSiS wrote:For an existing download with expired link:

1. With idm
-Automatically captures the correct download link from browser as soon as the download link is clicked again, replaces the expired link with the newly acquired link then resume download
-If i try to download the same file again, it asks if i want to resume the existing download or start over

2. With fdm :
-manually copy correct download link from the website and put in change url option. Some file sharing websites don't allow us to copy the correct download link(direct download link). Also can't copy download link from video streaming sites, most of them don't provide download option, you have to capture the link
-If i try to download the same file again, it just creates a new download and starts from scratch

How to do it? Hoping you understood the problem this time.
Hello!

Please provide sample URLs where you encountered the issue.

Regards,
Clive
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:31 pm

Hi Clive,

These are some of the links, I had problem downloading properly

*DXN = Can't download, downloads html file
*DRN = Can download but can't refresh expired link coz website doesn't provide direct link to copy
*VXN = Can't capture proper video link or download video from this site
*VRN = Can capture link and download video but how to refresh the download link if it expires as the website doesn't provide that video's direct link to copy?

1> https://www.load.to/2wFxBaNmDl/illustro ... d6g.rmskin ( *DXN )

2> http://www.datafilehost.com/d/23eaba4d ( *DRN )

3> http://tusfiles.net/e59wf5iyci8n ( *DRN )

4> http://www.crunchyroll.com/boruto-narut ... sor-740257 ( *VXN )

5> http://jkanime.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/1/ ( *VRN )

Please let me know if you need more examples.
Also if theres something i'm not aware of, any feature which can fix the above problems, please let me know
Thanks
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby StormJumper » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:47 am

RazorSiS wrote:Hi Clive,
These are some of the links, I had problem downloading properly
*DXN = Can't download, downloads html file
*DRN = Can download but can't refresh expired link coz website doesn't provide direct link to copy
*VXN = Can't capture proper video link or download video from this site
*VRN = Can capture link and download video but how to refresh the download link if it expires as the website doesn't provide that video's direct link to copy?
1> https://www.load.to/2wFxBaNmDl/illustro ... d6g.rmskin ( *DXN )
2> http://www.datafilehost.com/d/23eaba4d ( *DRN )
3> http://tusfiles.net/e59wf5iyci8n ( *DRN )
4> http://www.crunchyroll.com/boruto-narut ... sor-740257 ( *VXN )
5> http://jkanime.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/1/ ( *VRN )
Please let me know if you need more examples.
Also if theres something i'm not aware of, any feature which can fix the above problems, please let me know
Thanks


From what I can see, before I try it myself is anything that is hosting or sharing or Crunchyroll are sites that are protective of their site and I can see why download links expire for security and so other do not use their site as a torrent site causing them heavy bandwidth usage. Now if you were downloading something like FDM on the site here since it's not something on the level of Crunchyroll vested interest then links will not be a problem.

Here's a more closer meaning to the expired link:
Sometimes a download link remains valid for only few hours. If download is not completed within that time boundary, download will fail and you will get an error message ‘Download session is expired.

Another issue we have seen occasionally is when buyers use a "download accelerator" that actually splits the file into several parts to download simultaneously. Each of those concurrent partial-downloads would count as an "Attempt" against their link, which can exhaust all your permitted Attempts all at once and may appear to expire the link prematurely.
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:05 am

@StormJumper
Some download links expire, I know that well (for security reason or whatever)
How to refresh those links and resume downloading if my download is halfway expired is the point i want to make here.
Coz with IDM i can do that with above links
FDM's change url option isn't helpful while refreshing download links from the aforementioned websites

Please say you understood this time, coz I can't make my point any more clearer, English isn't my native language so i'm weak at it
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:12 am

@Clive @FDM-Team

Any help here please! :(
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby Clive Sorensson » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:56 pm

RazorSiS wrote:@Clive @FDM-Team

Any help here please! :(
Dear RazorSiS!

1. The issue with the 1st link is a bug. We've added it to our to-be-fixed list.

2. The 2nd, 3d, and 5th link are expired. If a link gets expired, you need to catch it again from the browser. Then in the FDM dialog, you will be prompted to continue downloading the existing download.
Yes, there is also a Change URL option in the shortcut menu, which allows you to replace the link manually.

3. Videos can be downloaded by calling the context menu.
Start the video. Call the context menu on an empty area of ​the page and click "Download video with FDM".

Regards,
Clive
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:50 pm

Hi Clive,
Thanks for your time looking into my problem

1. The issue with the 1st link is a bug. We've added it to our to-be-fixed list.

Cool :)

2. The 2nd, 3d, and 5th link are expired. If a link gets expired, you need to catch it again from the browser. Then in the FDM dialog, you will be prompted to continue downloading the existing download.
Yes, there is also a Change URL option in the shortcut menu, which allows you to replace the link manually.

It doesn't prompt me to resume rather starts a new download.
Check the screenshot : https://imgur.com/a/zKqjy
The file i'm downloading is already present (at 5%) when I try to download it again, fdm prompts to start a new download but no resume option
Sorry, if I'm doing something wrong

3. Videos can be downloaded by calling the context menu.
Start the video. Call the context menu on an empty area of ​the page and click "Download video with FDM".

Thanks for the info but I already know how to download video with fdm
When I download from the video link (4th link) I provided, fdm dialog shows 5 links to download but none of them is a video, just small .ts files <1MB
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby Usher » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:47 pm

RazorSiS wrote:When I download from the video link (4th link) I provided, fdm dialog shows 5 links to download but none of them is a video, just small .ts files <1MB
This video file is streamed in chunks, see MPEG DASH standard. To complete a full video file you should download about thousand *.ts chunks (not only the first 5 ones) and join them in a single *.ts file. FDM doesn't support such operation so far.
In FDM 3.x you can use batch download, as the chunk URLs are numbered. You can download a few *.ts files to see naming pattern used in URLs and create template for batch download. There is also unplug extension for Firefox that may dig deeper in web code and sometimes it provides URL for full mp4 file. See https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/unplug/ and note that it's not a web extension so it won't work in Firefox 57.
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:08 am

@Usher
Hi,
That was quite informative
Gonna try the extension or switch website if it fails
Thanks mate!

Anything on the 2nd problem I mentioned above? That is the main reason of this thread.
Should I switch to fdm 3 coz fdm5 doesn't provide resume option for existing download (screenshot in my previous post)
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby Usher » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:07 pm

RazorSiS wrote:Anything on the 2nd problem I mentioned above? That is the main reason of this thread.
Problems with file and video hosting sites were described many times, just search in older topics: search.php?keywords=file+video+hosting+services&terms=all&author=Usher&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=-1&t=0&submit=Search
In general, only premium (payable) users may use direct persistent links, resume downloads and use download managers. Other people should just try to download only one file at a time using only single connection per site, but in some cases you'll get only some small html file with error message, with no guarantee to resume and to success at all.
Note also that:
- There is NO faster download in any download manager using only single connection.
- You must use your browser to get a new temporary link, so you should better bookmark the download webpage in your browser rather than keep expired link in download manager.

RazorSiS wrote:Should I switch to fdm 3 coz fdm5 doesn't provide resume option for existing download (screenshot in my previous post)
Resuming MUST be allowed by the server side, so it's not a reason to change download manager. However, classic FDM 3 is more flexible in managing problematic sites:
- You can use Site manager to limit connections per site.
- You can add a new temporary link as a mirror link (with no guarantee to resume download).
- If some site doesn't allow to use FDM, you can add this site to skip list in FDM and the next time FDM will let your browser to download files from that site.
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Re: Problem with expired download link

Postby RazorSiS » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:41 pm

@Usher
I think you misunderstood here
I know some sites dont offer resume support but I'm not asking about them here. Lets keep them aside

Some sites support resuming but their link expires after sometime

Example: Windows iso download from microsoft site (supports resuming but download link valid for 24hrs)
At the end of 24hrs, lets say my download of windows iso is 89% complete and the link expires
How to resume it now? I don't want to startover

Clive Sorensson wrote:2. The 2nd, 3d, and 5th link are expired. If a link gets expired, you need to catch it again from the browser. Then in the FDM dialog, you will be prompted to continue downloading the existing download.
Yes, there is also a Change URL option in the shortcut menu, which allows you to replace the link manually.

As Clive said above, I'll get a prompt from fdm to resume the existing download but check the below screenshot, there is no option to resume the existing download.

Image

Clicking the Download button above just starts a new download.
I used this link (http://tusfiles.net/e59wf5iyci8n) in the screenshot above, just as an example
Also I know how to use "change url" option but its not useful while downloading from this link http://tusfiles.net/e59wf5iyci8n
How to do it then?

Thanks :)

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