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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:38 pm

FDM6.11 wrote:Computer disconnected from network
Perform this setting FDM6.11 does not get stuck
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Computer connected to the network
FDM6.11 has no response for a long time after executing this setting

This information will not help to fix the bug.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Usher » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:34 am

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:And what about other problems?

Hello,
Which ones? Built-in browser? We'll think about replacing it with something better.
In Android:
* FDM extension for Firefox. I don't know exactly, what is needed to fix this problem, but other extensions already work, for example uBlock Origin, well known and recommended by Firefox itself.
* Access to all folders on SD card (currently it's only "Android/data" subfolder). Currently other file manager is needed for this purpose.
* Better support for torrents.
- FDM seems to kill the internet connection when open for many hours with torrent download active. I need to restart the device to get connected again.
- From time to time FDM reports error when re-reading *.torrent properties, f.e. can't read file size.
* Better solution for power management - browsers work and download with no problem when power level is <15%. See viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18278&p=48512#p48512
* Cannot rearrange downloads on the list.

Other problems for all FDM versions:
* Site/password manager.
* Support for nested m3u8 playlists - select needed video quality, download an join all video segments (*.ts etc.) . See for example
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18242&p=48367#p48367
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18279&p=48592#p48592

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:What about Youtube? "Download from this site is not allowed" is NOT the message I'm waiting for.
Why can't you understand that this is just not allowed by Google? You want us to be removed from Google Play store?
I can't see this disclaimer in the program description.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:30 am

Usher wrote:* FDM extension for Firefox. I don't know exactly, what is needed to fix this problem, but other extensions already work, for example uBlock Origin, well known and recommended by Firefox itself.

As I have said already, it's not possible to create FDM extension for a browser for Android platform due to its limitations.
Usher wrote:- FDM seems to kill the internet connection when open for many hours with torrent download active. I need to restart the device to get connected again.

Android version? What do you mean "kill"? Your device stops seeing wi-fi? Or, it's connected, but web browser can't browse any web sites? Something else?
Usher wrote:- From time to time FDM reports error when re-reading *.torrent properties, f.e. can't read file size.

Could you please provide some details so we can reproduce this on our side?
Usher wrote:* Better solution for power management - browsers work and download with no problem when power level is <15%.

Well, this just needs to be added to the settings. We were waiting for the users to request this. :)
Usher wrote:* Cannot rearrange downloads on the list.

What do you mean? There is an option to sort the list in different modes.
Usher wrote:* Site/password manager.

What exactly do you want from this feature?
Usher wrote:I can't see this disclaimer in the program description.

This is stated (using bold font) in the program's descritpion on Google Play store. But who reads these descriptions, isn't it? :)
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Usher » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:55 am

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:* FDM extension for Firefox. I don't know exactly, what is needed to fix this problem, but other extensions already work, for example uBlock Origin, well known and recommended by Firefox itself.
As I have said already, it's not possible to create FDM extension for a browser for Android platform due to its limitations.
As I have already said:
- Existing FDM extension did work with Firefox 68 for Android, it was blocked only after upgrading Firefox to version 80.
- Some other extensions are compatible with Firefox 80 and work OK.
So what limitations do you mean? How to pass downloads from Firefox 80 to FDM? Manual copy-and-paste is NOT a solution, why should I do it instead of using downloader embedded in the browser?

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:- FDM seems to kill the internet connection when open for many hours with torrent download active. I need to restart the device to get connected again.
Android version? What do you mean "kill"? Your device stops seeing wi-fi? Or, it's connected, but web browser can't browse any web sites? Something else?
Tablet with Android 8.1. It shows active Wi-Fi connection, but all apps have problems with downloading anything - browsers can't reopen webpages, Google Play can't check for updates, etc. I cannot successfully reconnect even when I kill FDM working in background.

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:- From time to time FDM reports error when re-reading *.torrent properties, f.e. can't read file size.
Could you please provide some details so we can reproduce this on our side?
I will send report when it happens again.

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:* Cannot rearrange downloads on the list.
What do you mean? There is an option to sort the list in different modes.
It's not helpful, when I want to move a single download to top or to bottom of the list.

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:* Site/password manager.
What exactly do you want from this feature?
The same as it does in FDM 3.9.7. It's a request for all systems, not for Android only. Now it's not clear whether FDM keeps any credentials and how to change them when needed.

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:I can't see this disclaimer in the program description.
This is stated (using bold font) in the program's descritpion on Google Play store. But who reads these descriptions, isn't it? :)
I meant description on the forum and on the download page. I won't go to Google Play when I browse the Internet on my PC. Any mention about known issues/limitations would be more helpful and user friendly - like more details in changelogs.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:51 pm

Usher wrote:- Existing FDM extension did work with Firefox 68 for Android, it was blocked only after upgrading Firefox to version 80.
Hello,
There were never any FDM's extensions for any browser under Android platform. The browser had been passing downloads to FDM on its own. Starting from version 80 it stopped to do it. Why? Ask Firefox developers :)
Usher wrote:So what limitations do you mean?
Limitations of WebExtensions API and Android OS platform. In WebExtensions API, we interact with FDM from the browser using the special native host application. This is the only way. It's impossible to create and register such an application under Android OS. So it's not supported, and was never existed in FDM's distributive for Android.
Usher wrote:How to pass downloads from Firefox 80 to FDM?
It seems there is no way for now.
Usher wrote:Tablet with Android 8.1. It shows active Wi-Fi connection, but all apps have problems with downloading anything - browsers can't reopen webpages, Google Play can't check for updates, etc. I cannot successfully reconnect even when I kill FDM working in background.
Sounds like a bug of this OS or its components (maybe specific to the device). We has failed to reproduce it.
Usher wrote:It's not helpful, when I want to move a single download to top or to bottom of the list.
Why exactly do you want to do this? You can use priorities to set this download to be downloaded first or last.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Usher » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:31 pm

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:- Existing FDM extension did work with Firefox 68 for Android, it was blocked only after upgrading Firefox to version 80.
There were never any FDM's extensions for any browser under Android platform. The browser had been passing downloads to FDM on its own. Starting from version 80 it stopped to do it. Why? Ask Firefox developers :)
Finally I found what was wrong. In the new Firefox version there were changed some settings, including "Open links in apps". It was turned OFF, though it should be ON. I don't remember how it happened. Current Firefox Beta looks better in this regard - there's a separate "External download manager" setting there.

So I am very sorry for misleading info and all that mess.

BTW. I really did install standard FDM extension for Firefox on my tablet, see the photo:
https://gautnw.dm.files.1drv.com/y4pc6J ... 174824.jpg

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:Tablet with Android 8.1. It shows active Wi-Fi connection, but all apps have problems with downloading anything - browsers can't reopen webpages, Google Play can't check for updates, etc. I cannot successfully reconnect even when I kill FDM working in background.
Sounds like a bug of this OS or its components (maybe specific to the device). We has failed to reproduce it.
I have no problem with other apps intensively using internet connection. In FDM problems happened mainly in fast mode for long list of torrents. I think it happened because of too high default traffic limits for fast mode (note that there is NO possibility to lower speed in this mode!). Now I cannot observe it, I don't have so many torrents active.

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:It's not helpful, when I want to move a single download to top or to bottom of the list.
Why exactly do you want to do this? You can use priorities to set this download to be downloaded first or last.
Using priorities you can't queue downloads in a specific order, which may be useful for example for some multipart downloads or for working with files in a sequential order.

And priority isn't visible well enough. I would use the same colors as for traffic modes: green for high priority, blue for normal priority and gray for low priority. Snail traffic mode should be red, and all colors for dark theme should be darker (for me traffic modes for dark theme are too bright and high priority is too dark now).
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:21 am

Usher wrote:BTW. I really did install standard FDM extension for Firefox on my tablet, see the photo

I did not say that it's not possible to install FDM's extension for desktop. But even if it's - there is no point to do that - extension will not do anything useful.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:25 am

Usher wrote:I have no problem with other apps intensively using internet connection.
I suspect the problem is caused not by an intensity, but by the too large number of connections.
Usher wrote:Using priorities you can't queue downloads in a specific order
No, you CAN. What makes you think that it's not possible?
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Usher » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:29 pm

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:I have no problem with other apps intensively using internet connection.
I suspect the problem is caused not by an intensity, but by the too large number of connections.
I've got problems with default settings, so you are just stating that default settings are wrong, too aggressive, at least for fast mode.

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:Using priorities you can't queue downloads in a specific order
No, you CAN. What makes you think that it's not possible?
How do you order multiple files using priorities only once, with no need to any further correction? Try to reorder in one step the following sequence:
a01, a07, a13, a10, a04, c15, c09, c12, c06, c03, b05, b11, b02, b08, b14
Use priorities to download these files in natural order of numbers - first 01, 15 last, that is: a01, b02, c03, a04, b05, c06, etc.
Can I use more priorities than 3 existing ones?
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Re: FDM 6

Postby elcho » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:26 pm

Maybe a Bug, in latest version
- App runs at 48hz ( refresh rate ) with freesync activated.
My monitor Viewsonic XG2401 - 144hz
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:10 pm

Usher wrote:* Access to all folders on SD card (currently it's only "Android/data" subfolder). Currently other file manager is needed for this purpose.

Hello,
Thanks to Google, this is not easily at all, and even not possible in some cases (I mean access files from native code, including by using file system path names). So I don't think this will ever be implemented in FDM6 for Android 10 and earlier.
Good news is that finally Google has decided to lift this malicious restriction in Android 11. Thus one should be able to download anywhere on SD card (excluding some minor paths) under Android 11 in the next update of FDM6.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Alex » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:19 pm

Usher wrote:I've got problems with default settings, so you are just stating that default settings are wrong, too aggressive, at least for fast mode.
Probably. Can you try to find non harmful values for your case?
Usher wrote:How do you order multiple files using priorities only once, with no need to any further correction?
Why do you need this at all? For me, I use high priority to download a file I need right now. I never need such a strict ordering of downloading. Can you please explain your use case?
Usher wrote:Can I use more priorities than 3 existing ones?
FDM6 core allows to use much more (it's just an integer value), but we've decided to have just 3 in the user interface (it was not my decision by the way). Well, users does not ask for more priorities values...
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Usher » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:18 pm

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:I've got problems with default settings, so you are just stating that default settings are wrong, too aggressive, at least for fast mode.
Probably. Can you try to find non harmful values for your case?
Too aggressive default settings have been reported for all FDM5+ versions…
Currently I don't use fast mode because I can't set limits for download/upload speed in this mode. However, I did the following changes:

For Linux

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Traffic mode         |  Low    Medium      High
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Download speed       | 512 KB/s 8192 KB/s Unlimited
Upload speed         | 256 KB/s 2048 KB/s Unlimited
Max # of connections |  20        40       200
Max # of conn/server |   1         4        16
Max # of downloads   |  20        40       200

BUG REPORT: Using the same values for medium mode in FDM 3.9.7 I can download ISO images from Microsoft or video files from vod.tvp.pl with full speed, but I can't do the same with FDM 6 on Linux. In FDM 3.x download speed is almost constant, in FDM 6 speed grows to some limits and lowers to zero.


For Android now I use more conservative settings. My SD card is not as fast as HDD or SDD.

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Traffic mode         |  Low    Medium      High
---------------------------------------------------
Download speed       | 512 KB/s 4096 KB/s Unlimited
Upload speed         | 256 KB/s  512 KB/s Unlimited
Max # of connections |  12        40        80
Max # of downloads   |   4        16        40

There is no setting for "Maximum number of connections per server".
Older FDM versions have had problems even with a single file and download speed higher than 2 MB/s. Now I have no problem with 6-8 torrents. There is still problem with URLs in clipboard - when I switch back to FDM, it tries to download again already started URL.
FEATURE REQUEST: Maybe FDM should clear clipboard after adding download?

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:How do you order multiple files using priorities only once, with no need to any further correction?
Why do you need this at all? For me, I use high priority to download a file I need right now. I never need such a strict ordering of downloading. Can you please explain your use case?
Why should I repeat the things manually if I could use features of the program?

Suppose you want to download and watch some pretty rare TV series. You have found some files on a certain file hosting, some other files on other file hosting services. Search results show files ordered by message dates, files have no common naming convention, some of them are splitted using winrar…

Downloading audio files (for example, parts of an audiobook) is pretty fast, so you can rename and reorder files after download. But how do you want to download videos fast and watch them in a proper order with minimal waste of time? The simplest way seems to be as follows:

1. Open the first file hosting, search for all needed files and add downloads in the search order.
2. Repeat step 1 for other file hosting services.
3. Manually reorder downloads in FDM. You can't sort files by name…
4. Watch videos in the proper order, unpacking rar files if needed.
5. Delete watched video files and unneeded rar files, if you don't have enough space. You may have not enough time to upload files to the cloud:
* It takes time to split files into smaller parts before upload.
* Upload speed is usually slower than download.

Note that all those file hosting services are available only for logged in users, and links are temporary…

Alex wrote:Well, users does not ask for more priorities values...
Because advanced users prefer custom sorting.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby Usher » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:20 pm

Alex wrote:
Usher wrote:* Access to all folders on SD card (currently it's only "Android/data" subfolder). Currently other file manager is needed for this purpose.
Thanks to Google, this is not easily at all, and even not possible in some cases (I mean access files from native code, including by using file system path names). So I don't think this will ever be implemented in FDM6 for Android 10 and earlier.
If I understand correctly, FDM uses only content: URLs, for example content://org.freedownloadmanager.fdm/download.file
File managers use also file: URLs, for example file:///storage/emulated/0/Download/download.file, which needs additional permission and nothing more.

Of course I may be wrong. I did only read a little bit how Total Commander for Android works:
https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic. ... 56#p366956

Maybe we should move discussion on FDM for Android to a separate pinned topic. It would be easier to find it by more advanced Android users which might have better knowledge and might be more helpful.
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Re: FDM 6

Postby nic0400@yahoo.com » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:40 pm

FDM 6.11 does not download youtube playlist and when it downloads only 100 videos are downloaded

when downloading single video from youtube there is no option to add date

also support dailymotion single video and playlists

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