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Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:33 pm

Having gone back to Firefox 38.0.1 Release so FDM Plugin 1.7.3.2 would work with Firefox, Firefox today automatically updated itself to 38.0.5 RELEASE.
Interestingly, althoughDM Plugin 1.7.3.2 did NOT work with Firefox 38.0.5 Beta1, 2 or 3 it is working on my PC with Firefox 38.0.5 RELEASE.

(Just checked: FDM still does not work with Firefox 39 Beta 1 or 2 on my PC)
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby D. Yessa » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:50 pm

Hi Dave,

dko wrote:I've JUST noticed this in the FDM5 Preview Topic.

Build 4520.2(2015-05-15)
[*]Added compatibility with Firefox 38 and 39
Actually, this is not true.
We can only "declare" compatibility with FF 39 (without much testing) for those users who prefer alpha/beta versions, on their own risk.

But we cannot do this for the release build (currently 3.9.5). If it does not appear compatible, it's the reason to complain/ban us.

Now the addon is not compatible with FF 39, we are fixing it.
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:46 am

D. Yessa wrote:Hi Dave,

dko wrote:I've JUST noticed this in the FDM5 Preview Topic.

Build 4520.2(2015-05-15)
[*]Added compatibility with Firefox 38 and 39
Actually, this is not true.
We can only "declare" compatibility with FF 39 (without much testing) for those users who prefer alpha/beta versions, on their own risk.

But we cannot do this for the release build (currently 3.9.5). If it does not appear compatible, it's the reason to complain/ban us.

Now the addon is not compatible with FF 39, we are fixing it.


Hi Yessa :)

Thanks for the explanation and I understand and agree with your logic. I certainly know when Firefox is in Beta stage things can and do change both positively and negatively between Same Beta Version updates . I known Firefox 38.0.5 Beta had 3 updates and Firefox 38 Beta had NINE updates during its Beta stage.

I can in all honesty, fully understand why FDM Developers (who are already very busy) would not be too not keen to race to a fix for a Firefox Beta when the next update for the same Beta Version may break it again.

:wink: I'm just too enthusiastic to see what's coming with Firefox (Beta) and to use FDM with it.
As already stated if it is choice between Firefox Beta or FDM then its no contest as I can wait for Firefox but NOT do without my favourite and most used FDM App/Add-on .

(for the record I am currently using FDM Release FDM 3.9.6 RC Build 1549

I look forward to the fix

Thank you and the other developers for all your efforts on FDM
Regards Dave
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:29 am

Hi Yessa,

Regarding your comment over 2 weeks ago "Now the addon is not compatible with FF 39, we are fixing it.

Any news please? I'm getting concerned the FDM Plugin fix will not be ready by 30th June 15 (only 8 days away) which is the date Mozilla says Firefox 39 will go from Beta to Official Release.

Many Thanks, Dave
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby D. Yessa » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:44 am

Hi Dave,
I understand your concerns, but there are some problems here, as usually.

It was pretty much working last week. We were about to release the update. But, after updating FF to 39 beta6 (June 16th), it stopped working. Updated their SDK to the latest version & rebuild extension - seems to work again. Who knows, what else they want to break, and many beta versions they're going to release release in June... :) And! They've already managed to release beta7 last weekend.

So, as soon as they stop this rush (they call it "development"), we'll release the extension. :)
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:21 pm

D. Yessa wrote:Hi Dave,
I understand your concerns, but there are some problems here, as usually.

It was pretty much working last week. We were about to release the update. But, after updating FF to 39 beta6 (June 16th), it stopped working. Updated their SDK to the latest version & rebuild extension - seems to work again. Who knows, what else they want to break, and many beta versions they're going to release release in June... :) And! They've already managed to release beta7 last weekend.

So, as soon as they stop this rush (they call it "development"), we'll release the extension. :)


Hi, (sorry I referred to you as Yessa only, before - did not notice the D.)

Thanks ever so much for your very speedy and informative reply. You have my sincere sympathies, Mozilla really needs to slow things down.

I thought Nightly & Aurora (Development), I thought were for major changes, and that Betas was supposed to be for closing in/polishing things prior to Official Release. Instead, as you correctly suggest, Mozilla seems to be rushing things and IMHO Betas these days are getting more like Aurora. So much so, that in between Firefox 37 .0 Release on 31 Mar 2015 and 39 Beta 7 we have had 6 official Releases (37.01, 37.0.1,38.0, 38.0.1, 38.0.5 & 38.0.6.) and a MASSIVE 21 Beta releases in the same period.

Seems to me Firefox development continues well into Beta hence all these unexpected changes keep occurring. Add-on Authors must be getting really annoyed. If add-on authors cases updating or tail off then a major advantage Firefox has over other Browsers will be lost.

I ALSO note Mozilla is now rolling out X64 versions of 39 Beta (with my 2 days of experimental usage its seemed OK with my add-on sand very stable (x64 does not like FDM anymore than x32 does however :cry: )

Just a thought D. Yessa (please forgive me if this seems a naive question). To try and help FDM users who like to play with Firefox Betas or earlier, couldn't FDM offer the plug-ins developed and got working (even if only lasting a few Beta updates) on a purely Dev. version and Users own risk) basis.
Then for example, those of us who like testing Betas would have possibly been OK up to Firefox 39 Beta 5.

MY primary reason being keen use Firefox Betas is not because I cannot wait, It's because, I have and use 31 add-ons, 3 Greasemonkey user scripts and 7 stylish user styles. Using Firefox Betas gives me advance warning if any/some of these are about to go down, as it did with FDM and I am then able to give add-on authors and FDM a "heads up" at an earlier stage and certainly pre Firefox Release.

Mozilla is getting very close to Firefox versions forcing Add-on Digital Signing (with no optional disable option) on Users. E10 implementation is also getting closer. I feel it's really valuable for many Users to try out Firefox Betas and report issues. In my case I have already switched from a few add-ons that were no longer being developed and were not compatible with E10.

Now I know (on the face of it) there is nothing stopping me playing with Firefox Betas, But, FDM is my ONLY MUST HAVE as its so useful and always being used by me. I will not use any Firefox Version (be it Beta or Release) that FDM will not work with (so highly do I value FDM and its Firefox integration, and ability to continue downloads when Firefox is closed)

Kind Regards, Dave
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby Vienny » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:44 pm

Plugin works fine on Firefox 39 beta 7 by using 3.9.6 build 1556, though I must bump up max version to 39 (install.rdf).

but I'm not sure it works on Firefox 39 final version because their "Development" is incomprehensible to me.

It's more difficult than earthquake prediction :-D
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:04 am

Vienny wrote:Plugin works fine on Firefox 39 beta 7 by using 3.9.6 build 1556, though I must bump up max version to 39 (install.rdf).

but I'm not sure it works on Firefox 39 final version because their "Development" is incomprehensible to me.

It's more difficult than earthquake prediction :-D


Thanks for the information Vienny.

I agree with you it DOES work for Firefox 39 Beta (x32).
I have also found that it does NOT work with Firefox 39 Beta (x64) https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/39.0b7/win64/en-GB/Firefox%20Setup%2039.0b7.exe

Thank you Dev. guys. I am now back on Firefox Betas with Firefox 39 Beta (x32).
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby Usher » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:10 am

dko wrote:I have also found that it does NOT work with Firefox 39 Beta (x64)
32-bit add-ons/plugins DO NOT work with 64-bit apps. Read FDM FAQ about 64-bit systems and apps, please.
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:05 pm

Usher wrote:
Vienny wrote:I have also found that it does NOT work with Firefox 39 Beta (x64)
32-bit add-ons/plugins DO NOT work with 64-bit apps. Read FDM FAQ about 64-bit systems and apps, please.



Actually it was me (dko) that referred to Firefox (x64)
Thanks for the information and link Usher :) .

The reason I ,sort of, hoped the FDM Plugin would would work, is that my other add-ons seemed to work normally when I checked out firefox (x64) for day or two, but I did not check them out in-depth one my one). Firefox (x64) did not reject the FDM plugin, but I have no idea whether it would anyway for x32 incompatibility or just ignore it..

I have no idea if my other add-ons are already x64 compatible or not, but I am guessing most are only x32. If that is the case, then I have no idea why they seemed to work OK on Firefox 38 (x64).

Do you by any chance have any idea whether the Firefox FDM plugin will be made x64 compatible some time, or would that need the FDM main app to also be x64.

Regards, Dave
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby Usher » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:46 pm

dko wrote:Actually it was me (dko) that referred to Firefox (x64)
Fixed.

dko wrote:The reason I ,sort of, hoped the FDM Plugin would would work, is that my other add-ons seemed to work normally when I checked out firefox (x64)
Extensions coded in JavaScript should work properly in both Fx x86 and x64 without a change, if written according to Mozilla programing rules, but you already know that the rules are fluent :-(
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby Usher » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:49 pm

Vienny wrote:Plugin works fine on Firefox 39 beta 7 by using 3.9.6 build 1556, though I must bump up max version to 39 (install.rdf).
Confirmed. I don't think there will be any changes now, bugfixing only is expected before releasing Firefox 39 final.
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:15 am

Usher wrote:
dko wrote:Actually it was me (dko) that referred to Firefox (x64)
Fixed.

dko wrote:The reason I ,sort of, hoped the FDM Plugin would would work, is that my other add-ons seemed to work normally when I checked out firefox (x64)
Extensions coded in JavaScript should work properly in both Fx x86 and x64 without a change, if written according to Mozilla programing rules, but you already know that the rules are fluent :-(


Thanks Usher, I now understand why so many of my add-ons seemed to work with Firefox 39 Beta (x64). I assume a very few may be x64 ready),but most are probably written in JavaScript.

Many thanks Usher for bothering with helpful and useful information to my various my posts and questions recently, on different Topics. I have a good memory and most of what experts, or more knowledgable persons than myself tell me, is remembered, and therefore my knowledge increases.

Kind regards, Dave
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby Usher » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:38 pm

Thanks for another error confirmation.

dko wrote:Just noticed my FDM Plugin updated today 27th June 2015 to 1.7.5.2.
It's been updated when you restarted FDM. It's not the best solution as many users run FDM once and keep it open for many days, without system restart, just hibernating it if needed.
I have already suggested that FDM should use schedule for internal maintenance (cleaning *.sav files, checking for updates, recalculating torrent hashes etc.). Especially recalculating hashes on exit is annoying - it may take a few minutes and system just kills the app in the middle of its work.

dko wrote:Please note: Yesterday my Firefox 39 Beta 7 updated itself automatically, but details only say 39.0 there does not appear to be a 39 beta 8, and 39 has not been released so what it is now I have no idea.
It's RC now (search Mozilla FTP for candidates, not for releases).
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Re: Please provide a new compatible plugin for Firefox 39 Beta and 38.0.5 Beta

Postby dko » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:29 am

Usher wrote:
dko wrote:Please note: Yesterday my Firefox 39 Beta 7 updated itself automatically, but details only say 39.0 there does not appear to be a 39 beta 8, and 39 has not been released so what it is now I have no idea.
It's RC now (search Mozilla FTP for candidates, not for releases).


As I was reading this I have just had another Security update for Firefox but where I go it is still showing Beta and latest Candidate as 39 Beta 7 dated 18/06/15 but I have had 2 updates since that date. I'm confused.

Could you advise me of the URL etc you use, please Usher.
Many Thanks, Dave

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