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Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:04 am
by rufang
why it downloads unwanted files in a hidden folder named .unwanted ?

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:44 pm
by Usher
If you mean torrents, it's by design. In *.torrent file there are provided hashes for every torrent piece and you must download the whole piece to calculate its hash and make sure it's downloaded OK.
Some pieces may contain starting or ending parts of files marked as unwanted (to skip/ignore) – but any torrent client must download those small parts to get whole pieces. Of course, other torrent clients may hide this action in other way then FDM.

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:31 am
by Clive Sorensson
rufang wrote:why it downloads unwanted files in a hidden folder named .unwanted ?

Hello, please specify if the downloads in question are torrents. If so, then Usher left an explanation above.

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:16 am
by rufang
Usher wrote:If you mean torrents, it's by design. In *.torrent file there are provided hashes for every torrent piece and you must download the whole piece to calculate its hash and make sure it's downloaded OK.
Some pieces may contain starting or ending parts of files marked as unwanted (to skip/ignore) – but any torrent client must download those small parts to get whole pieces. Of course, other torrent clients may hide this action in other way then FDM.


thank you.
for example, in a torrent there are three videos. each video is 1 GB. i want only one of them. but it still downloads the other two, which means i have to waste 2 GB. right?

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:17 am
by rufang
Clive Sorensson wrote:
rufang wrote:why it downloads unwanted files in a hidden folder named .unwanted ?

Hello, please specify if the downloads in question are torrents. If so, then Usher left an explanation above.


yes. torrents

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:57 am
by Clive Sorensson
rufang wrote:
Usher wrote:If you mean torrents, it's by design. In *.torrent file there are provided hashes for every torrent piece and you must download the whole piece to calculate its hash and make sure it's downloaded OK.
Some pieces may contain starting or ending parts of files marked as unwanted (to skip/ignore) – but any torrent client must download those small parts to get whole pieces. Of course, other torrent clients may hide this action in other way then FDM.


thank you.
for example, in a torrent there are three videos. each video is 1 GB. i want only one of them. but it still downloads the other two, which means i have to waste 2 GB. right?


Are they separate files in the torrent itself?

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:22 am
by rufang
Clive Sorensson wrote:
rufang wrote:
Usher wrote:If you mean torrents, it's by design. In *.torrent file there are provided hashes for every torrent piece and you must download the whole piece to calculate its hash and make sure it's downloaded OK.
Some pieces may contain starting or ending parts of files marked as unwanted (to skip/ignore) – but any torrent client must download those small parts to get whole pieces. Of course, other torrent clients may hide this action in other way then FDM.


thank you.
for example, in a torrent there are three videos. each video is 1 GB. i want only one of them. but it still downloads the other two, which means i have to waste 2 GB. right?


Are they separate files in the torrent itself?


separate files?
there are three files on the file list, I check one and uncheck the other two.

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:44 am
by Usher
rufang wrote:for example, in a torrent there are three videos. each video is 1 GB. i want only one of them. but it still downloads the other two, which means i have to waste 2 GB. right?
Wrong. Right click any of unwanted files and check its size on disk. See the difference?
Then read old explanation here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15590&p=32994&hilit=sparse%2A+%2Atorrent%2A#p32994
and other old topics about sparse files used for (torrent) downloads:
search.php?keywords=sparse*+*torrent*&terms=all&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=-1&t=0&submit=Search

Notes:
1. Bugs reported in old FDM versions/builds are mostly fixed in current FDM 5/6 builds. If your unwanted files are NOT sparse, you should report download type - magnet link or direct *.torrent download.
2. Some tools for sync/backup ignore files with sparse attribute set, and you cannot remove sparse attribute in older Windows versions. Use other tools or copy files to another place if needed.

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:44 am
by rufang
Usher wrote:
rufang wrote:for example, in a torrent there are three videos. each video is 1 GB. i want only one of them. but it still downloads the other two, which means i have to waste 2 GB. right?
Wrong. Right click any of unwanted files and check its size on disk. See the difference?
Then read old explanation here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15590&p=32994&hilit=sparse%2A+%2Atorrent%2A#p32994
and other old topics about sparse files used for (torrent) downloads:
search.php?keywords=sparse*+*torrent*&terms=all&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=-1&t=0&submit=Search

Notes:
1. Bugs reported in old FDM versions/builds are mostly fixed in current FDM 5/6 builds. If your unwanted files are NOT sparse, you should report download type - magnet link or direct *.torrent download.
2. Some tools for sync/backup ignore files with sparse attribute set, and you cannot remove sparse attribute in older Windows versions. Use other tools or copy files to another place if needed.


thank you

Torrent .unwanted

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:15 am
by oslnx
When we select that we DO NOT want to download a file in the torrent file list, it is because we do NOT want to download it. Downloading and putting in another folder called .unwanted is the same shit that this option doesn't exist, it's actually quite STUPID

Re: Torrent .unwanted

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:03 pm
by johnlgalt
oslnx wrote:When we select that we DO NOT want to download a file in the torrent file list, it is because we do NOT want to download it. Downloading and putting in another folder called .unwanted is the same shit that this option doesn't exist, it's actually quite STUPID


It would help if you read the posts that Usher linked to and then understand why Torrents work this way. Then you'd (maybe) understand that it's not FDM's fault. It's how the protocol works.

Re: Torrent .unwanted

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:46 pm
by oslnx
johnlgalt wrote:
oslnx wrote:When we select that we DO NOT want to download a file in the torrent file list, it is because we do NOT want to download it. Downloading and putting in another folder called .unwanted is the same shit that this option doesn't exist, it's actually quite STUPID


It would help if you read the posts that Usher linked to and then understand why Torrents work this way. Then you'd (maybe) understand that it's not FDM's fault. It's how the protocol works.



lol, i code in any language and i'm telling you that no matter how the torrent protocol works, you don't need to download any files if you don't want to, FDM downloads the unwanted files to .unwanted folder on purpose. If it were as you imagine there would be no codes for fake ratio like seba14, so if you don't know don't claim, just research and learn first.

Re: Why it downloads unwanted files of torrent?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:42 pm
by johnlgalt
Keep believing that then.

Re: Torrent .unwanted

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:13 am
by Usher
oslnx wrote:lol, i code in any language
If you were that smart, you would have already fixed the problem on your own directly in libtorrent-rasterbar or qbittorrent sources.

Here's how it looks like with torrent pieces in real:
https://superuser.com/questions/560076/ ... junk-files
Note dates: Asked in 2013, and in 2019 the answer was still the same.

And here's the only workaround I know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitComet#Padding_files